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Holiday Journal entry....

  • Nov. 5th, 2008 at 1:39 AM
Chimp

Even though this semester is over when I saw this I couldn’t resist posting it on live journal just as an example of the influential style of Virginia Woolf.  The Queen song Bohemian Rhapsody completely bewildered me. What was it about? Why the complexity in the music, with multifaceted acappella coupled with raid changes in pattern and rhythm, not to mention a guitar riff? However after reading the lines “The song is in the style of a stream-of-consciousnessnightmare, and has unusual musical structure for popular music” I began to have a greater understanding of the song. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Rhapsody)  Like Woolf it seems Queen used this stream of conscious style to pour out an emotion far greater than what i first thought. Perhaps the story was no longer just about the wrong doings of a person but rather the condition of human society. What do you think....

 
 

 


 

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide
No escape from reality
Open your eyes
Look up to the skies and see
I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy
Because I'm easy come, easy go
A little high, little low
Anyway the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me, to me

Mama, just killed a man
Put a gun against his head
Pulled my trigger, now he's dead
Mama, life had just begun
But now I've gone and thrown it all away
Mama, ooo
Didn't mean to make you cry
If I'm not back again this time tomorrow
Carry on, carry on, as if nothing really matters

Too late, my time has come
Sends shivers down my spine
Body's aching all the time
Goodbye everybody - I've got to go
Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth
Mama, ooo - (anyway the wind blows)
I don't want to die
I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all

I see a little silhouetto of a man
Scaramouch, scaramouch will you do the fandango
Thunderbolt and lightning - very very frightening me
Gallileo, Gallileo,
Gallileo, Gallileo,
Gallileo Figaro - magnifico

But I'm just a poor boy and nobody loves me
He's just a poor boy from a poor family
Spare him his life from this monstrosity
Easy come easy go - will you let me go
Bismillah! No - we will not let you go - let him go
Bismillah! We will not let you go - let him go
Bismillah! We will not let you go - let me go
Will not let you go - let me go (never)
Never let you go - let me go
Never let me go - ooo
No, no, no, no, no, no, no -
Oh mama mia, mama mia, mama mia let me go
Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me
for me
for me

So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye
So you think you can love me and leave me to die
Oh baby - can't do this to me baby
Just gotta get out - just gotta get right outta here

Ooh yeah, ooh yeah
Nothing really matters
Anyone can see
Nothing really matters - nothing really matters to me

Anyway the wind blows...

 ""Bismillah" is the opening word in the Qu'ran (Koran) and literally means "In the name of Allah."
"Scaramouch" according to the dictionary means "a stock character who appears as a boastful coward."
"Beelzebub" is one of the many names given to "The Devil." (http://www.queenwords.com/lyrics/songs/sng11_01.shtml)






I’ll shall have to ponder on this a little more.....

Week 12 Lit entry.....

  • Oct. 22nd, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Chimp

Wow the last tutorial of the semester already… and still there seems so much to write. I really want to thank my Literature peers in tutorials this semester. Due to the density and emotional ramifications of reading texts Conrad this semester (like others semesters) I found them to be particularly essential to broadening and diversifying my understanding of the topic which we delved and the tutorial this week was no exception. To be honest I struggled to write a live journal this week simply because of the exceptionality of the ideas expressed by various people in the tutorial today. So in the hope that I remember who said what, and that I don’t infringe on anybodies ideas, I wanted to write an journal entry on what was generally said today in the tutorial today… (For those of you that were there please tell me how I go)

 

To paraphrase Bec (http://rebeccabragg.livejournal.com/) Stoppard almost uses an Theatrical irony by the way in which he moves from past to present. By allowing us, as the audience to see what the truth is and what is in fact fabricated (by Bernard), we as the audience are allowed to see the human condition at its precision. Structurally however this augments the story enabling the play to flow with a great fluidity. I also found it interesting that Stoppard wasn’t consistent in the interchange of periods. He sometimes shows reality before the Hypothesis and In other instances Bernard’s Hypothesis is shown before the reality. As a consequence It is almost felt like a dialogue between past and present arises as if the characters are transcending their own period. This idea is further emphasised in the closing scene.




The Location of the play, (the room) becomes a character itself, providing the foundation and the grounds which propels all of the characters action and effectively becomes a pivotal catalyst by which the human condition is ultimately challenged. As Eddie pointed out nothing which contradicts morality is done within this room, instead Stoppard has all immoral acts happen outside the room in which it is set.


(URL: http://seattlest.com/attachments/seattle_michael2/Arcadia.jpg)

The room itself acts as a point of control. Within this room all is revealed and the only true sense of consistency is achieved. For example apart from candles and computer very little of the physical construct of the room changes similar neither does the ideas which each character looks at.

Please have a look at....

  • Oct. 16th, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Chimp

Hi everyone over the past couple of weeks I have been looking at some of the live journals from people in other courses and their is so many remarkable live journal entries that I can honestly say that by not doing this earlier I have been missing out on so much and I just wanted to encourage you all to have a look at them. I have comment on some of the following works; please use their URL’s to have a look at their actual works. They have so many unique and distinctive ideas that I have learnt so much so thankyou to the people in this course and to others as well....

To be honest I am at a complete loss for words, you have a wonderful mastery of poetic techniques. As you undoubtedly know, each of your poems are indeed insightful to the unwritten Australian philosophy that the heart of the nation lies in the land, and those that are exposed to your beauty. I want to also thankyou for the raw emotion within each of your poems, I felt myself not only reading your poems but actually a participant especially in the “Outback Heartache.” On a more personal level I want to thankyou ( and I know this may sound strange) but I actually felt for a minute like I was sitting with my grandfather (who has passed) and he was telling me the tales of his childhood. Thankyou for allowing me to feel closer to him for those few second, whilst I was reading your poem, you certainly have a gift with words....

(http://elizabethgard1.livejournal.com/957.html)

Fantastic poem and so nicely succinct (Which is something I have great difficulty doing). Great work! Like you I love my mango's (and I'm lucky enough to spend most Christmases with my grandmother who have so many mango trees, that all we eat!) I can really imagine eating a mango on a day like the ones you described, and I know this sounds strange but from your description of the surrounding and sunscreen I could almost smell summer.... I love the colours and the images which you use especially the line "Brilliant blue and cool and breeze, I can really see it all."
Bring on summer, Mango's and more fantastic poems like the ones you've written.

I can't wait to see what else you write. Keep up the good work.
Justine

http://benzammitt.livejournal.com/1594.html

Hi Gary!

To be honest I’m not sure what to write. The raw emotion and honesty which you breathe into your poem is a wonderful gift. To be completely honest I read your poem and was a little scared to post you a comment just because I didn’t think I could write a comment which did justice to what you have conveyed (and what the others have comment on is true).The way in which you use rhyming couplets is up their with the likes of some of the great. Not only does this add depth to the poem but you avoid is detracting from your poem (something which I can never seem to able to do). You certainly have a wonderful gift, and your poem will stay with me for sometime. Thankyou for the wonderful courage you had to share such an intricate topic with us. Thankyou once again for sharing your brilliance!
Justine

(oh just a little about myself- like Candice I’m a second year student at ACU, where I’m studying History, Literature and religion. As the others have said- We all hope to hear from you soon until then take care)

(http://dallymessenger.livejournal.com/730.html)

After reading your poem, I had to find out more about the butterfly which you described- you drew me in so much.(Thankyou) and you certainly have done it justice. As Marc said "the texture of your meanings are beautifully portrayed," and I felt like you were personally painting the surroundings for me with the rich colours and images.

Thankyou for posting it up

Justine

(http://david1416.livejournal.com/2104.html)

Hi Tani!
I love your poem. I love the way in which you constantly use the word "who," this really enabled me to have a personal connection with what you were saying. Thankyou for the honest and open way in which you have crafted your poem, I can't wait to see your further entries!!!

(http://tania-angel.livejournal.com/937.html)

Don't worry Paulo, like you when I first started I felt a little strange writing an "open diary" to people, but please know that each and everyone that reads your entries learns so much. And already you have so much to be proud of in this piece. Your entry above is no exception; The way in which you have written your poem (as Michael said) shows "instinctive feel for the way words hang together to create a certain music," and the rhythm which you have used is genius (and something which i personally struggle with.) please keep up with your artistic expression it is honest and approachable for all who read it.

Justine

(http://necros99.livejournal.com/881.html)

 

These are only some of the ones which I have (honestly) had the pleasure of reading. Please have a look at these and the others that are out there, they are really good...


Week 11 Lit entry.....

  • Oct. 15th, 2008 at 12:42 AM
Chimp

“Bernard: Darling-

Hannah : don’t call me darling

Bernard: Dickhead then, is it likely that he man Chater calls his Friend. Spetimus Hodge is the same man who screwed his wife and kicked the shit out of his last book?” (Scene 5 of Arcadia )

HANG ON! What did he just call her?

“Bernard: what for

Hannah: Oh your lecture.

Bernard: No bugger that. Sex.

Hannah: Oh no thanks ... (then protesting) Bernard!

Bernard you should try it. It’s underrated.

Hannah: Nothing against it.”  (Scene 5 of Arcadia)

 

WHAT!!! Are they allowed to say that.....


(URL: http://www.rogerhighfield.com/media/tom_stoppard_interview.jpg)
 

Throughout the past few weeks I have been privileged to be involved one of the drama groups who are acting out scenes from Arcadia. One thing is certain that Thomas Stoppard is a writer that certainly redefines the boundaries of Literature.  With lines like the above, Stoppard’s humour and wit is evident in this play of interwoven stories. Drawing from different periods in time, Stoppard’s play is multidimensional, and a true expression of this post-modernist genius. To be honest I’m a little hesitance to write anything about Arcadia (this week) solely because part of Stoppard’s genius way he shocks the audience, and I don’t want to wreck it for the audience this week.

I was surprised however by the characters which Stoppard choose to use. He is not afraid to draw from some of the most respected members of the literary community, in this case Lord Byron. However this is not new to Stoppard. In his play “Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead” Stoppard draws Shakespeare’s hamlet. He transforms Shakespeare’s  characters, themes, ideas, and emotions in such a way that he enable a connection between the Renaissance era and that of modern times, offering a new perspective and renewing interest in the values of Hamlet that are a part of every society, to be critically evaluated. Similarly he does so with the interchanging of characters with the period of Thomasina and that of Bernard.

After reading the play Arcadia, I had the desire to go back and re-read “Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead,” and I was amazed by the intertextuality that he had in his play. The influences of Becket and T.S Elliot are apparently interwoven in the Stoppard’s play. Like Elliot’s “till human voices wake us and we drown,” the impact of other characters are paralleled in both Hamlet (although TS Elliot wrote after this Shakespeare) and Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead. In that Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are only ‘woken’ upon the appearance of messenger from the king to which seals the fate of both Rosencrantz and Guildenstern thus setting them on the path to like T.S Elliot’s Proof frock to “drowning.”  In keeping the Shakespeare’s story line “as it was written, Stoppard seals the fate of his Rosencrantz and Guildenstern from the very start allowing them to “have no control, none at all”, in comparison to Hamlet’s illusion of control. Stoppard uses a similar technique in Arcadia to examine what the truth is, and the illusion of truth. Bernard’s “Truth” is unfounded and illogical, yet he is prepared to offer his version of what occurred between Mr & Mrs Chatter, Lord Byron and Spetimus as an educational “Truth.” Stoppard also is also able to use his draw humour to expose the automation of human life as a consequence of intellect without emotion......

Before I reveal to much...... I leave you with this, until after thursday.....

This is an interview conducted by Charlie Rose in March of 1995. Unfortunately I was only able to obtain a full episode rather than the segment specifically to Stoppard.  To go straight to it start at 20:30. Here Stoppard talks about the process of writing the play, the literary techniques behind and the motive of the actual play ‘Arcadia’ please enjoy


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For your enjoyment.... week 10 (extra)

  • Oct. 6th, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Chimp

I was talking to my grandma about Thomas’ play and she said gave me told me to look up a few radio plays that she remembered when she was little.  The following is one in which Bette Davis was involved in called ‘A stolen life. Like Thomas the rich sounds tell a far more inclusive story than that any screen with its (possibly) restricting images. Which leads me to ask the question whether Is hearing really one of the most underrated sensuous after all isn’t it one of the only things that can’t be manipulated by another?  

 
Part 1

 

Part 2


Part 3


Part 4

Part 5

 
Chimp

 

“ A play for voices?”

......

“Isn’t that what all drama is?”

......

“It’s not?”

Coming straight off reading Orwell’sNineteen-eighty four” and having a pre-emptive idea of what a drama play should be I can honestly say I can honestly say that I was ill prepared for ‘Under Milk Wood’ and confused as to the meaning behind it. However after Nikki played us the radio  version (and other students) in the tutorial I began to have a better understanding of the play which is set in Llareggub. For me ‘Under Milk Wood’ describes the interconnection of society, caught among their own situation. Shown by the interweaving of dream sequences among the 30 plus characters, each character is seen as dependent on the other, with no true identity outside the one set up by the foundations of the city. Mr Willy Nilly (and many of the other characters) see to it that everyone knows everyone’s business, even going as far as to tell people what information their letter contains before they even open it.

 


 

 

 

But I suppose what I got most out ‘Under Milk Wood’ was the power that language has, and more importantly the music and tone that it creates.  In the age of computer graphics, surround sound, 3d animation etc, Under Milk Wood emphasis the power behind the music, and the power of the voice.



 

The alliteration and the syntax which Thomas uses is imposing, especially when read by Tim Burton.  It is penetrating and had me on the edge of my seat, but it got me thinking. Are we, as a society less for overlooking such work as these? Instead of just listening and imaging we are caught up in technology and all which it envisages.


 

In all this talk of 'a play of vioces' and the importance of sound, I couldn’t resist including a pieces from Jeff Wayne’s “War of the Worlds”  (based on H.G Well’s novel of the same name) simply because of the connection of Tim Burton. Like Burton’s penetrating voice in ‘Under Milk Wood,’ the combination of his voice in this as the narrator and the score of Jeff Wayne works in much better than any of Tom Cruise acting (sorry if your a fan). Such works as both of these goes to show the importance of sound in a story and the impact which it can have.


 

 



 


 
Chimp


 

Personally I found Orwell’s work hard to read, simply because of how enduring its themes are.  To say that George Orwell ‘s text have the ability to transcend time is an understatement. In his criticism of Totalitarian societies, Orwell exposes the social disparities and failings of many of the top authority. Like Conrad, Orwell has the ability strip society to the bones to reveal its true indiscretions. Undoubtedly influenced by the political climate of the time, Orwell, with wonderful craftsmanship is able to tear at the very hierarchy of so many political and philosophical communities.

 

I suppose what made me so uneasy was that although on the surface, 1984 is the fictitious about Winston Smiths personal account of the iniquitous acts of controlling government and its “Ministry of Truth.” But underneath that is how easily this story could be applied to modern society. Although never exactly naming a country, Orwell’s criticism of other countries as the time of writing is obvious.  Winston Smith’s situation bares remarkable similarities to many countries political ideologies. The similarities between countries such \as Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union are apparent as Orwell seems to indirectly criticise any country whose consolidation of power came at a lost to the dignity of man. Where the Soviet Union had the Cheka, The Red Army and latter (post Orwell) the KGB (Committee for State Security) and Nazi Germany had the Gestapo Orwell has the Ministry of Truth and the idea of Big Brother.
 

 
URL: http://www.realdiehl.com/images/GeorgeOrwell.jpg

But is Orwell applicable now?

Certainly......

In a world which still remembers the generational fear that was (or rather is) terrorism , a fear which saw the implementation of many restrictions similar to Orwell’s Big brother. The conflict between knowledge and safety is forever seen no clearer than in this novel. (With the intention to sound as little politically minded as possible) Is the fact that  

war is peace
freedom is slavery
ignorance is strength”

Especially the last one, how often have we had the security act thrown back at us. As for Freedom I mean in the last few weeks in Theology haven’t we been studying freedom for and freedom again (positive and negative freedom).  

Orwell also raised idea of Newspeek, although designed to remove any defiant and mutinous behaviours.  It got me thinking if this we obvious (even in its basic from in the modern world today) and I think it is, both linguistically and pictorially. In a world which has turned to
“seeing is believing”  we are now more critical of what is written,  but how critical are we to what we see? Sure we laugh at shows like ‘Frontline’ but is this just as dastardly as Newspeak ?

Yep.....

I mean have a look at the clip bellow. How many people would be manipulated and feel inadequate

 upon seeing this clip...

 


 

nineteen eighty four relevant in two thousand and eight certainly  

Week 9 Lit entry (Part 1).....

  • Sep. 24th, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Chimp

A comment left on one of my Live journal sparked this poem. The person made a comment about ALF (for those of you that remember it) and it sparked a stream of conscious type thought that lead me to this poem. Please tell me what you think...

 

As the clock ticks

So do the guards change

A movement of times

A fraction of the universe

Constantly revolving

It waits for no one

And then

Silence



Url:  http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1999-10-31/darkness.jpg

Chimp

Ok this is perhaps going to be one of the most peculiar live journal entries that I’ve done to date, but I couldn’t help it (it might also explain my Username photo). I Apologise for it unconventionality.....

 

The other day I went to the Zoo and I was captivated by some of the expressions on the faces of the animals, most significantly the chimpanzees and gorilla. I know how strange this is going to sound but It had me thinking of both T.S Eliot and Virginia Woolf. As we have seen both spoke vigorously of these literary geniuses.  As Reilly ( http://reilly88.livejournal.com/ ) said “Woolf and Mansfield advocated a liberty that was far more fundamental: freedom of the mind” Zoe added (on the daughters of The late Cornel) he constant influence and expectations of their father made them forget who they were and the purpose of their lives” ( http://zoekelly88.livejournal.com/14210.html ) . Edith wrote There are layers that seem to travel beyond the mere ink and paper implemented by Mansfield”( http://edith-adams.livejournal.com/). Whilst I agree with these ideas (Which their authors have written much more eloquently than I could have) a cog turned over in my head when seeing some of the expressions on their face.

 



When i saw this little guy the first thing i though of was Eliot's lines:
 

"Do I dare . .  
Disturb the universe? 
In a minute there is time 
For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse . . .  
  
For 
     I have known them all already, known them all 
Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons 
I have measured out my life with coffee spoons; 
I know the voices dying with a dying fall 
Among the music from a farther room. 
     So how should I presume? 
  
And I have known the eyes already, known them all 
The eyes that fix you in a formulated phrase"


 I know it is a strange connection, but it was enough to spark a Woolf style stream of consciousness that went along the lies of Chimpanzee.... “Do I dare to disturb the universe” ... to who is the real animal the chimpanzee or the human species.

In our first class with Michael he asked us what we thought literature. Simply I thought then. Do I still think the same way? Definitely not. I must admit the most prevalent thing that I have learnt in this unit has to be not about the core text themselves, but about the art of literature itself.  For me “what is literature” is the same as “what is life”! A little bit deep? Maybe! Literature is not the same for everyone. Nor is it just words written page, or text on a page. It is the evolution or at times even the deterioration of the human condition. It is the tears or societies and the smile......

 

What do you think?....


 

 


P.S Please check out the live journals above, their insighful and informative.  




 
Chimp

I came home from uni today and thought i would have a go at Woolf's 'stream of conciousness,' and looking up at the Blue mountains here is something i came up with. What do you think?


LIFE and EXISTENCE by Justine


They saw life and

                                Lost

Among the rugged hills

For there is no orderly computers

To state your life’s journey

To determine the safest route

Only the freedom the wind

Their is no impersonal texting

Only friendly clouds go by

Whilst the city has so many people

All are really alone

Everywhere you go faceless nonentities

Habitual

Expected

Like clockwork

AND THEY SAY THAT LIFE IS LOST

AMONG THE RUGGED?

AND THEY SAY THAT LIFE IS LOST

AMONG THE RUGGED Hills?


Chimp

Compassionate, yet with a confronting message. What things appear to be and what are they really? What does it means to live is this different from having an life? There is something humbling about the work of Katherine Mansfield.   In comparison to Virginia Woolf there is (dare I say) something more feminine about Katherine Mansfield, that makes her appealing. Whilst she lack the vociferous style typical of Woolf (not to discredit either authors) there is something ingrained deeply within Mansfield stories that makes her work seem deeper and perhaps more profound.  Whilst Woolf’s literary techniques are hard hitting and direct even in her stream of conscious state (as shown in “Mark on the Wall.”)

Examining both authors, the audience is exposed to the inequity in their world and as a consequence of the modern time. Mansfield in particular seems to address the idea of self determination and how it is perceived through others, a problem which still appears to be problematic in modern society. How many people define themselves, their behaviours and their choices by others? Both authors seem to dare to beak the social moulds.

It is Mansfield’s subtly which makes her so approachable and allows her to excel. With uncanny ability, she is able to shape characters such as Laura in “The Garden Party” to be an insinuating apparition of change. Like Eliot’s “Overwhelming question,” through Laura she is able to have her audience questioning their own morality and social consciousness, as well as Class. Who has it and who doesn’t? Like Leo Tolstoy’s ‘Man and Master” the audience is faced with many questions to contemplate-

Is class a hierarchy or an elegance?

What does it mean to be alive and dead?                                                      Is Life an existence or a state of being, or just to breathe?

Equally as impressive the crafting of her anti-heroines Josephine and Constantia in the “The Daughters of the Late Colonel.’ Without being condescending of the times, Mansfield uncovers the submissiveness and inequality of the two women who like her title suggests are defined by and through their father even though he is dead. What I found the most interesting was what Mansfield didn’t say. No information is given about the father himself. The audience is never allowed to know him personally. Yet they are aware of the intensity of his power. So powerful is this authority that it is able to transcend his own death and still hold his daughters into submissiveness. Or does he?  Like “The Garden Party” The audience is left with so many different questions, each to be figured out. Are the girls ever really free of their environment and there fathers past effects on them?

Examining both authors, the audience is exposed to the inequity in their world and as a consequence of the modern time. Mansfield in particular seems to address the idea of self determination and how it is perceived through others, a problem which still appears to be problematic in modern society. How many people define themselves, their behaviours and their choices by others? Both authors seem to dare to beak the social moulds.

 

 

The follow is an add for the awareness of problems with self-esteem in young people, they point out the inter-relationship between each individual and those around them. Unlike Mansfield they are not subtle rather they seek to expose in an imotive and strong tone

What do you think......





The following has to be one of my current favourite add at the moment





For those of you that are currently in education you might have already seen this, for those of you that have it was an Add designed by "The National Association for Prevention of Child Abuse and Neglect"






Like Mansfield’s work all these adds show the inter-relationship between people, and how they have an immediate and prolonged effect.

Even if it is unintentional are we the other peoples Late Colonel. Do we impinge on other people’s freedom... even if we don’t mean to?


 

Week 7: Whose Afraid of a Woolf?

  • Sep. 12th, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Chimp



Woolf is without a doubt one of the forbearers of social reform in the beginning of the 21st century. Woolf’s literary skills made her the perfect candidate to question the very crux of a society struggling with the emotionless and derogating ideologies of imperialism and oppression. Whilst Woolf was definitely a catalyst for reform, one can only wonder whether Woolf was the driver or in fact the vehicle in so many of these changes prevalent today.  Although some her work such as “Professions for women  and A Room of one’s own” is evidently feminist in its nature, it is her work “A Mark on the Wall” which seems to appeal most to me.

Although “A Mark on the Wall” is a result of Woolf’s stream of consciousness, it seems to move away from Woolf’s normal feminist themes but rather epitomizes a community struggling through emotional suppression and psychological and physical containment.   In her imagination she is able to experience a sense of freedom and purity of thought drifting for reality into the depths of her mind. In doing so she affirms to her readers a sense of control in a seemingly amoral society who is struggling with the desensitisation of human life which had occurred.  By drawing upon the most simplistic and common items like a snail, to trigger a stream of consciousness, Woolf has opened up the freedom of imagination to all classes including the most oppressed and the poorest.

After reading her work i'm must admit i found myself looking at the most minute items in  a different way....... What thoughts do the following images trigger for you......

                              

Chimp

Comment to Bec’s Live Journal-
Wow I love your entry. Not only is the written content brilliant, (as always) but your images are fantastic. I really love the darkness that Eliot writes with and the images of the video you found as you said seems to encapsulate it perfectly. (I’m not sure whether to thank you of curse you. It keeps playing on in my mind. So much that I had to come back and write this comment) I hope you don’t mind. To think that it is actually connected To “The Heart of Darkness”, which is extremely depressing to think that so many authors had a similar message. Yet the message still goes unheard, where it should.
Ok I'll get off my soap box with that last comment, but i suppose with the content that we have been studying across lit, theo and education it almost seems like were trapped in this progressive spiral of death.
 
I can't wait to read your next entry! As always your work will play in my mind- especially the voice of the actor in your clip.
 
To check out Bec’s entry      http://rebeccabragg.livejournal.com/10093.html
 
Comment to Lyndal’s Journal entry for week 2
I must admit I love reading you entry this week, just because your initial reaction to May Wedderburn Cannan’s “Rouen" was my reaction (and I suppose it still is). Reading your entry made me evaluate my own thoughts slightly. I must admit that whilst I respect that her experience was just that her experience I can't help but feel a little disappointment at her attitude. Its interesting that you said that "She saw determination, mate ship, courage and strength, she didn’t see the harsh reality." I really didn't see that. However after reading your entry i went back and read her work with slightly less negativity toward the author herself and i found my self sympathizing with her experience. Solely because as you pointed out she was unable to experience what Sassoon saw and thus this was her reaction (which may have also been weakened by hindsight).
Just as a contrast to Cannan what do you think of this poet http://www.aftermathww1.com/perhaps.asp
Also
both of those poems are written by Vera Britain who lost both a brother and a fiancé to the war. Like Cannan she worked just behind the home front and published her experiences post-War. Tell me what you think
Link to lyndal’s Live journal- http://lyndal1.livejournal.com/11492.html
 
 
“Wow! (sorry about the idiom) but if a picture tells a thousand words I’m definitely having troubles at the moment putting the two images you posted into words. Its hard to believe that something with such majesty and splendor is also able to produce something so frightful, but as you pointed out that’s what Conrad does in his work “The Heart of Darkness.”
Don’t worry I also was really shaken by the thought that it was my ancestor that contributed to such atrocities (or at least stood by at let them occur). Your response to your question cut me further… “Maybe not, considering the attempt to civilize the African peoples still cuts into their core this minute.” It got me thinking what atrocities are being committed at present (in our “Heart of Darkness) that we are contributing to and that or successors will shudder over. (I must admit that’s what really concerns me). Until next time, thank you for such a moving entry.”
Link to Alexandra’s Journal - http://alexandrabr.livejournal.com/
 
Wow! I really can't think what to write. There is something refreshing about your entire live journal. I don't often comment on an entire journal, but there is something immensely appealing about your work. It succinct and very well set out. Your ideas are also very well articulated. I’m honestly not sure what to say other than to say that know with great confidence that each of your entries is invigorating. I am honestly lost for words. I’m not sure what I can write more I can actually write. Other than to say that Thank you….”
Please have a look at Edith’s live journal-
http://edith-adams.livejournal.com/5219.html?view=1891#t1891 although I have read some really well written journals there is something about this one that is innovated (and I can’t quite put my finger on it). It’s definitely a case of quality over quantity.

Week 6 Live Journal entry

  • Sep. 3rd, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Chimp

 

Ok I have to admit the content of all of my units got to me:
Abuse in Education,
Imperialism in New Zealand and Africa in Literature and History
Moral issues in Theology
It just got me thinking about the choices society makes. I suppose this poem is the outcome of all this bleakness. Please tell me what you think





Fear clutching at my feet

Laden with decision

Of the fear of darkness

C l u t c h i n g

at my side

it seizes

Fills and consumes

Losing the fite in its braeth

Chilling what hope remains

In amidst the darkness

A child drawing

it
only
braeth*

Like blood being drawn out of a stone

As the weight of the world crashes at its chest

Why?

But still the question

remains

WHY?

Why                                          Death

Justine Phillips (* help from an anonymous friend)    

Chimp
 Although this isn’t an “official entry” I thought I’d include it just for comparison to Charlie Chaplin’s “The Great Dictator” (And for a little bit of enjoyment to) I was telling my grandmother about “The Great Dictator” which M.G Showed yesterday, and she told me to look up this film by “The Three stooges.” She said that although it was as commercially successful as Charlie Chaplin’s, she thinks it might have been released just before Chaplin’s. I also included a few other cartoons that are along similar lines. I suppose if Poets are the unacknowlaged legislators of the world, than comedian must be the people representatives. What do you think?

Part 1 of 2 of "You Nazty Spy"

 

Although these were released after Chaplins movie i though it would be intresting to see how cartoons were used for the same purpose.
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Week 5 -> post tut entry

  • Aug. 27th, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Chimp
“I have a rendezvous with Death
On some scarred slope of battered hillAlan Seeger
 
Eliot’s classic The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock (which was originally titled Prufrock among Women") has managed to encapsulate and possibly even epitomize the modern man (and women). From the opening lines to the closing “Till human voices wake us and we drown” Eliot manages to provide more climaxes in his poem the most well written novels. (But perhaps I’m a little bias) Focusing on the perplexed existence of an emasculated man Eliot manages to convey his message with a humor that connects with his audience.  Although relying on the text of other poets such as Jules Laforgue, Shakespeare, John Donne and Andrew Marvell, Eliot brings their work into a new era, with bumbling dexterity.  His modernist poem has managed to transform these idea and emotions in such a way as to enable a connection between audience and theme.
 
Writing in the style of dramatic monologue but with the same rapid thoughts as the stream of consciousness, Elliot has shown the insecurity of Prufrock telling us to “Let us go you and I.” To further this, the constant changes in tones, adds to emphasize the constant anxiety and timidity which Prufrock faces in his world of constant disillusionment. Although his distressed by the timeless question of age and immorality and if to “wear the bottom of” his “trousers rolled,” he also tedious materialism of the world.
 
  Eliot delivers his intertextuality in an interesting way. Unlike most authors the use of intertextuality undermines Prufrock, instead of creating credibility. Eliot is able to use these poets and novelist in such a way, that it furthers his emasculation. His own thoughts, no matter how profound are not his own. Rather they are the thoughts of others. This works in two ways. Coupled with the fact that Prufrock declares that in the opening lines


S’io credesse che mia risposta fosse
A persona che mai tornasse al mondo,
Questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse.
Ma perciocche giammai di questo fondo
Non torno vivo alcun, s’i’odo il vero,
Senza tema d’infamia ti rispondo.
(roughly translated means)
If I thought that my reply would be
To someone who would ever return to earth,
This flame would remain without further movement
But as none has ever returned alive from this depth
If what I hear is true
I can answer without fear of infamy”
One is only left to assume that Prufrock is either unable to return to a time (pre-war time feeling) of innocents, or that he is so devitalized that he is unable to have thoughts other than those of his own. He even declares that he is not “Prince Hamlet, nor was meant to be” There is nothing fixating about him, no perplexing question.
 
Undoubtedly despite all the intertextuality it is the way in which he draws from the Browning like images that makes his poem so vibrant. From the personified (or rather catified) images of the fog, to the images of “but-ends of my days” you can almost empathize with this anti hero. However it is the line “half filled streets” that has me thinking the most. Why are they half filled? Is it a glass half empty/ full question? Is this a comment on the social effects of war? Is it that the people in the street are socially unacceptable? It is this line that I can’t interpret all ideas seems relevant to the context of the poem. What do you all think?
 
Until next time…..
P.s enjoy the following animation of the poem. Unfortunately it is only about half, but it reminds me of some of the Absurdist work such as Beckett and Stoppard. Please tell me what you think